1 00:00:00,42 --> 00:00:07,32 Because you are. Like. The 2 00:00:07,33 --> 00:00:12,39 United States of America. Stands one nation. 3 00:00:13,70 --> 00:00:16,35 Indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 4 00:00:21,50 --> 00:00:21,69 I make 5 00:00:21,70 --> 00:00:28,33 a motion to prove the agenda second. On favor say aye aye aye aye all opposed motion 6 00:00:28,34 --> 00:00:32,64 carried are there is there anybody that would like to speak as part of the 7 00:00:33,28 --> 00:00:37,63 opposition's requests and communications this morning or this tonight this evening 8 00:00:37,63 --> 00:00:42,98 . But every time I need is. OK We've got 9 00:00:42,99 --> 00:00:46,32 a business subsidy policy public hearing at seven and then 10 00:00:46,33 --> 00:00:51,72 a tiff district. As part of that too so we'll continue on and come back to that at 11 00:00:51,73 --> 00:00:57,98 seven o'clock there's one change the consent agenda item easy on the third 12 00:00:57,99 --> 00:01:04,58 contract. We're changing the word. With. Sam to 13 00:01:04,59 --> 00:01:09,77 pseudo we're changing number six wage agreed upon six hundred we're going to say 14 00:01:09,78 --> 00:01:10,93 payment agreed upon 15 00:01:10,94 --> 00:01:17,22 a six hundred or so to be payment instead of wage so I would I would make 16 00:01:17,23 --> 00:01:23,60 a motion to approve the consent of general with said change their second second on 17 00:01:23,61 --> 00:01:30,21 favor say I I opposed motion carried I don't think there's any ordinance or 18 00:01:30,22 --> 00:01:36,68 resolution changes for today. Flood update all and my. 19 00:01:39,84 --> 00:01:45,20 Welcome. Honorable Mayor and Council obviously we're going to get an update for the 20 00:01:45,41 --> 00:01:50,48 the levee. That's at this time place basically been placed on all of the of the 21 00:01:50,49 --> 00:01:55,11 levee except for Section five Section five is the section from the covered Creek 22 00:01:55,12 --> 00:01:59,59 lift station towards Kerry Peterson South Head and west towards wastewater 23 00:01:59,60 --> 00:02:05,11 treatment plant. Right now we've got about fifty percent of the poly on the levee 24 00:02:05,15 --> 00:02:10,77 and. We're going to speed be done with the poly wrapping sometime around Wednesday 25 00:02:10,78 --> 00:02:17,76 or Thursday. Once we get that done the sandbag get put in keep in place 26 00:02:18,27 --> 00:02:22,22 one of the things that we're currently working on is trying to work with the court 27 00:02:22,23 --> 00:02:26,57 to get the two red work crossings completed. This one appears 28 00:02:26,58 --> 00:02:30,74 a lot more difficult at the trestle and we're looking at us and then still material 29 00:02:30,75 --> 00:02:30,99 kind of 30 00:02:31,00 --> 00:02:36,09 a floor will concrete or fulfill we want to get there or another blessing if you 31 00:02:36,10 --> 00:02:40,12 will. To make sure that that's something they've used tried and we don't we're not 32 00:02:40,76 --> 00:02:47,50 trying to reinvent the wheel saw. We get the feeling at the third street for street 33 00:02:47,51 --> 00:02:51,73 bridge should be done today it's getting pretty close and that will be probably 34 00:02:51,74 --> 00:02:57,67 wrapped sometime by Wednesday or Thursday also. I would estimate we're at about 35 00:02:57,68 --> 00:03:01,34 ninety to ninety five percent completed. On schedule 36 00:03:01,35 --> 00:03:05,17 a little bit ahead of schedule at this time we are forecast they're forecasting 37 00:03:05,18 --> 00:03:08,97 some rain here for the next three days so we'll see how that plays into things but 38 00:03:08,98 --> 00:03:12,92 if nothing else we're on time we have the clay in place the remaining work could be 39 00:03:12,93 --> 00:03:16,98 done in rain conditions so so I think we're sit in 40 00:03:16,99 --> 00:03:22,86 a pretty good position. But that's about all 41 00:03:23,84 --> 00:03:30,55 whatever it will but. The biggest the biggest issue that if you notice is that we. 42 00:03:31,63 --> 00:03:32,56 Know we have work 43 00:03:32,57 --> 00:03:36,87 a little bit later tonight and this patient that we are going to have it's kind of 44 00:03:36,88 --> 00:03:42,07 forecast maybe three inches in the next three days we thought that might impact our 45 00:03:42,08 --> 00:03:48,61 scope of work so we just decided to go ahead and you know. That and we you know 46 00:03:48,62 --> 00:03:54,14 this is we can work we just want to stay safe our deadline was by Friday good to be 47 00:03:54,15 --> 00:03:59,17 done and like it makes us we are good things looking pretty good so if we get rain 48 00:03:59,18 --> 00:04:02,98 if we had three inches of rain the next three days and the pollies not on their 49 00:04:02,99 --> 00:04:06,72 second affected we will get all you know you will get even if it's raining you can 50 00:04:06,73 --> 00:04:11,84 still put it on OK That's why I want to get to play more plays and that would take 51 00:04:11,94 --> 00:04:12,55 place you're on 52 00:04:12,56 --> 00:04:18,08 a train get most of polygraph before the plane goes and labors can get in there and 53 00:04:18,09 --> 00:04:23,63 then the western. Portion of forty. We're just going to are we on 54 00:04:23,64 --> 00:04:27,96 a wait and see attitude on that you know just the nature of the construction that 55 00:04:27,97 --> 00:04:32,24 we can do that relatively quick to speeding maybe four to five hours to build that 56 00:04:32,25 --> 00:04:36,91 levee and it's going to be done on the pavement so it's there isn't as much work 57 00:04:36,92 --> 00:04:40,17 involved there. So it should be kind of 58 00:04:40,18 --> 00:04:44,78 a we can see see where the can see what the forecast the flood levels to be and. We 59 00:04:44,79 --> 00:04:49,48 set Agent to have the resources in place it takes four five hours to do it but does 60 00:04:49,49 --> 00:04:54,97 it take four or five hours to coordinate that I mean just just out of curiosity I 61 00:04:54,98 --> 00:04:58,31 think that based on where the materials are right now we're borrowing the material 62 00:04:58,32 --> 00:05:00,91 from the illiteracy So it's really close 63 00:05:00,92 --> 00:05:06,06 a it's it could be closer than it is and and they've got sixteen trucks available 64 00:05:06,07 --> 00:05:10,00 to put the material there so it's got the they could get the material there in four 65 00:05:10,01 --> 00:05:13,33 to five hours I guess into probably Rapidan and get everything in place another two 66 00:05:13,34 --> 00:05:15,36 to three hours maybe so within 67 00:05:15,37 --> 00:05:19,24 a day we could have it done one thing I definite want to say is thank you to 68 00:05:19,25 --> 00:05:23,98 Mueller's and Henchoz And also and for all the hard work that they've done and and 69 00:05:24,02 --> 00:05:28,49 equal to the both of you the hours that you guys are putting in Mueller's right now 70 00:05:28,50 --> 00:05:31,99 is borrowing the clay to us and we'll bring it back on or Don So that's 71 00:05:32,00 --> 00:05:35,65 a huge cost savings for us to be able to do that we're borrowing it they're loaning 72 00:05:35,66 --> 00:05:42,42 it right I said we're borrowing it. We're ON THE SAME PAGE Yeah no so. 73 00:05:43,45 --> 00:05:47,15 Huge thank you to you to everybody that's putting in the extra time definitely 74 00:05:47,65 --> 00:05:47,90 that's 75 00:05:47,91 --> 00:05:52,78 a big pile of dirt out there is you look look god over the Main Street Bridge that 76 00:05:53,42 --> 00:05:56,27 I didn't think it was going to be that high when you start talking in these 77 00:05:56,28 --> 00:06:03,04 meetings and how you look at it is thirty feet. Parts got to be ten or twelve feet 78 00:06:03,05 --> 00:06:06,95 high I'd like to take you back and I apologise for interrupting but I also want to 79 00:06:06,96 --> 00:06:11,79 make sure that we don't forget Dave's excavation in there either and absolutely 80 00:06:11,80 --> 00:06:17,60 amazing job and I mean we've talked to her and this is the before the storm but. 81 00:06:18,88 --> 00:06:23,31 Honestly I wouldn't I mean we talk all the time about civic pride community pride 82 00:06:23,35 --> 00:06:29,01 and I mean we had forty eight volunteers sign up for sandbags one hundred fifty 83 00:06:29,02 --> 00:06:35,13 showed. We have. I mean all these companies are local They're all right no backyard 84 00:06:35,14 --> 00:06:38,53 there are completely standing up and you guys are getting straddled with something 85 00:06:38,54 --> 00:06:43,59 that you didn't necessarily plan for and. I can speak for myself and I think I 86 00:06:43,60 --> 00:06:46,57 speak for the council that we have the utmost faith in you and thank you for doing 87 00:06:46,58 --> 00:06:50,59 what you do and I would want anybody else to do it so I do want to shout 88 00:06:50,60 --> 00:06:57,52 a shout I want to Dan Meyer too he's from and of so it was absolutely he is 89 00:06:57,60 --> 00:07:04,40 that good person is all he says he's been here all the time so let me watch I think 90 00:07:05,23 --> 00:07:06,48 I have to actually after 91 00:07:06,49 --> 00:07:09,75 a council meeting tonight I'm schools meet with the fire department we're going to 92 00:07:09,76 --> 00:07:15,04 start going over for Cedars for life while. I have to talk to me for the pumps or 93 00:07:15,09 --> 00:07:20,01 how they operate actually going to word town and actually get them guys on board. 94 00:07:21,41 --> 00:07:22,95 The car are you going to be doing live 95 00:07:22,96 --> 00:07:31,30 a large. High sign up at the again. And 96 00:07:31,31 --> 00:07:35,55 I have to do anything. Also we're working on getting 97 00:07:35,56 --> 00:07:41,25 a camera up there to watch it city Chaska was out today big think you did them for 98 00:07:41,46 --> 00:07:47,10 for coming you know for helping us with that I don't know how feasible it is I'm 99 00:07:47,11 --> 00:07:50,35 still working out the logistics of making it public there's that there's 100 00:07:50,36 --> 00:07:53,28 a limitation on the number of connections and if we get people that sit there and 101 00:07:53,29 --> 00:07:56,60 watch it all day long we're going to eat up the connections the cameras are still 102 00:07:56,61 --> 00:08:02,65 kind of working out that so we can try and do it without. Blocking access from you 103 00:08:02,66 --> 00:08:06,84 know the management and the emergency management and that that might need it so 104 00:08:06,98 --> 00:08:10,29 working on that we should we're looking at late this week to get that installed and 105 00:08:10,64 --> 00:08:16,22 and maybe data set it up so. I guess the other question that's come up is where to 106 00:08:16,26 --> 00:08:22,72 residents look for for the latest information and. Friends his friends and I were 107 00:08:22,73 --> 00:08:28,90 at a woman are on Thursday down in the city of Chaska or at Carver County there's 108 00:08:28,91 --> 00:08:30,89 a lot of information that's out there right now there's 109 00:08:30,90 --> 00:08:35,45 a lot of people that say I heard over the weekend what was everybody worried about 110 00:08:35,46 --> 00:08:40,19 the river's not up at all but then you read in the news that that man Cato is 111 00:08:40,20 --> 00:08:42,74 supposed to go up twelve feet in the next you know X. 112 00:08:42,75 --> 00:08:48,14 Number of days and all that water's going to come down to us. Bret nigher or 113 00:08:48,15 --> 00:08:51,71 Branson in Christie of being pretty diligent about getting updates out on the 114 00:08:51,72 --> 00:08:57,96 city's website that's the official place to to look for information. From my blog 115 00:08:57,97 --> 00:09:01,85 perspective I usually will try and not I won't break news out there we'll get it 116 00:09:01,86 --> 00:09:05,26 out on the city's Web site first but I'm putting it out there we're putting it on 117 00:09:05,27 --> 00:09:10,58 Facebook. So we're trying to utilize some of the different communication methods 118 00:09:10,59 --> 00:09:13,30 that we've got but the city's website if there's 119 00:09:13,31 --> 00:09:18,32 a question about it please call the city hall and ask some downtown residents that 120 00:09:18,51 --> 00:09:22,47 are hearing that's going to be five feet below last year and I don't think that's 121 00:09:22,51 --> 00:09:27,22 going to be the case whatsoever and then keep into Keep in mind that if you start 122 00:09:27,23 --> 00:09:32,40 looking at those flood. Predictions from the National Weather Service Those don't 123 00:09:32,41 --> 00:09:35,80 account for any precipitation those don't account for three inches of rain those 124 00:09:35,81 --> 00:09:42,25 don't account for that type of thing so in whatever you see we were cautioned that 125 00:09:42,26 --> 00:09:46,15 it's not the crest that we're seeing out there don't we're not supposed to look at 126 00:09:46,16 --> 00:09:50,60 that and say that's the cross next Friday or Saturday and we're free from there so 127 00:09:50,60 --> 00:09:54,15 . It's a complicated process it's 128 00:09:54,16 --> 00:09:59,26 a complicated deal the National Weather Service was saying we're not predicting 129 00:09:59,27 --> 00:10:02,88 anything past Jordan at this point we're not sure what's going to happen Chaska 130 00:10:02,89 --> 00:10:06,37 we're not sure it's going to happen Shockey we're not we're not sure what's going 131 00:10:06,38 --> 00:10:08,61 on I was savage so it is 132 00:10:08,62 --> 00:10:13,64 a fluid situation completely on that one hundred ten on that being said you know we 133 00:10:13,65 --> 00:10:19,35 don't only can we can't do anymore we've raised is as far as we can raise it. Some 134 00:10:19,36 --> 00:10:23,37 rules are going to close or aware of it not entirely accurate we can go sandbags on 135 00:10:23,38 --> 00:10:30,38 top of already. That would be expected of the spikes and to Colorado. And 136 00:10:30,39 --> 00:10:31,71 it's just impossible to get 137 00:10:31,72 --> 00:10:37,20 a machine up there so I mean. We've seen river he's three feet in 138 00:10:37,21 --> 00:10:42,45 a day or two and for those that point we kind we kind of built the thing so that we 139 00:10:42,46 --> 00:10:48,74 could take the maximum OK So very difficult to get up there in sand to get one or 140 00:10:48,75 --> 00:10:52,68 two layers. I think the other point that you were just bringing up to 141 00:10:52,69 --> 00:10:57,41 a little bit ago was the misnomer about what we are going to get for and I will be 142 00:10:57,42 --> 00:11:02,29 sure here just what the weapon are that we have today if you start looking through 143 00:11:02,30 --> 00:11:06,37 other rivers and different systems they're very different than what we have here 144 00:11:06,38 --> 00:11:08,74 right now so I mean you do hear one where there's 145 00:11:08,75 --> 00:11:13,51 a rest this river that might be in southern Minnesota somewhere and there already 146 00:11:13,57 --> 00:11:17,61 that's you know you post to it where you got to really look at specifically we're 147 00:11:17,83 --> 00:11:19,58 right here I did hear 148 00:11:19,59 --> 00:11:23,41 a comment today too from some of it so they are it's could be five feet higher than 149 00:11:23,42 --> 00:11:27,32 what we have is your saw those rumors are up there going right now we're going I 150 00:11:27,33 --> 00:11:32,19 think my point in all this Polish felt is that it is what it is we're doing 151 00:11:32,20 --> 00:11:34,42 everything that we can we're prepared we've got 152 00:11:34,43 --> 00:11:39,29 a levee watch I don't want to create any panic but at the same time I mean we've 153 00:11:39,30 --> 00:11:43,70 given all the information that we can give if you want to look at it your guess is 154 00:11:43,71 --> 00:11:47,19 as good as ours we've got our engineer working now we've got you guys work and I 155 00:11:47,51 --> 00:11:54,01 was covered as we can be right at us go up and I feel very confident that the work 156 00:11:54,02 --> 00:11:58,09 that you guys have done the months of planning of certainly paid off and and once 157 00:11:58,10 --> 00:12:03,49 you guys pulled the trigger it's been an amazing process to watch. Think you need 158 00:12:03,50 --> 00:12:10,12 help with anybody having come now Max on Trevor. We will call it OK. I drove I 159 00:12:10,13 --> 00:12:10,33 drove 160 00:12:10,34 --> 00:12:16,92 a bobcat once point to. Any other comments for questions thanks him boys Thank you 161 00:12:16,92 --> 00:12:22,90 . Housing Action Plan Cindy. 162 00:12:24,03 --> 00:12:25,19 Thank you and your packets is 163 00:12:25,20 --> 00:12:29,43 a copy of the Housing Action Plan that we're asking you to consider for approval 164 00:12:29,44 --> 00:12:34,71 and then we will send it to the Met Council this plan is required as part of your 165 00:12:34,72 --> 00:12:38,98 participation in the local housing incentives account the majority of the 166 00:12:38,99 --> 00:12:43,45 information as you've probably read in my agenda request form is already you've 167 00:12:43,46 --> 00:12:47,75 already adopted it in one of your other plans so this isn't anything new they just 168 00:12:47,76 --> 00:12:50,25 require that it be basically compiled into 169 00:12:50,34 --> 00:12:55,85 a housing plan document and submitted to them separately the only section that's 170 00:12:55,86 --> 00:13:00,01 new from literally something that wasn't cut and pasted from some other document is 171 00:13:00,02 --> 00:13:02,87 the section on implementation and that's 172 00:13:02,88 --> 00:13:07,01 a list of items that the city there already has done or has indicated in some other 173 00:13:07,02 --> 00:13:10,79 plan that would consider doing so I kind of really combined things there to get to 174 00:13:10,80 --> 00:13:15,35 that that section but otherwise this is ALL THINGS THAT YOU'VE you or your 175 00:13:15,36 --> 00:13:21,65 predecessor Council has opted in the past. QUESTION Can we 176 00:13:22,28 --> 00:13:27,95 insert some two thousand and ten numbers in here now that. Now that the census is 177 00:13:27,96 --> 00:13:33,34 done but information isn't that detail the I think just the population numbers all 178 00:13:33,35 --> 00:13:40,14 but not the detail I haven't looked actually I think it is out there. I can update 179 00:13:40,15 --> 00:13:46,38 it was look and if we can great because it be nicer if we had you know more recent 180 00:13:46,39 --> 00:13:51,55 numbers. Sure if you want to do it if you want to adopt contingent on that or would 181 00:13:51,56 --> 00:13:54,85 you rather bring it back to another meeting because I would just add all doesn't 182 00:13:54,86 --> 00:13:56,59 add the Congress is a table and it was 183 00:13:56,60 --> 00:14:02,06 a something that has to be done immediately or if we have timeline or well it's 184 00:14:02,07 --> 00:14:06,26 sort of if there's any possibility that something could come up where the city 185 00:14:06,27 --> 00:14:07,25 might want to apply for 186 00:14:07,26 --> 00:14:12,24 a Livable community develop demonstration account funds this summer. Then it's more 187 00:14:12,25 --> 00:14:12,31 of 188 00:14:12,32 --> 00:14:19,80 a time timing if we could just adopt them that you know if. Adopt the plan but say 189 00:14:19,81 --> 00:14:25,78 update it with more recent numbers if available OK the census numbers 190 00:14:27,98 --> 00:14:32,86 the details housing stuff so. Yeah because I was on the site I think there. 191 00:14:35,97 --> 00:14:39,34 Are any other questions comments but. 192 00:14:45,50 --> 00:14:47,66 Is there a motion to approve a make 193 00:14:47,67 --> 00:14:53,80 a motion to approve resolution or the Housing Action Plan and resolution Oh is 194 00:14:53,81 --> 00:14:59,33 a housing expert and the resolution. You have to adopt both or just the resolution 195 00:14:59,37 --> 00:14:59,70 there's not 196 00:14:59,71 --> 00:15:06,90 a resolution. Resolute always where there is no resolution 197 00:15:06,91 --> 00:15:09,81 just adopt the plan I'll make 198 00:15:09,82 --> 00:15:14,55 a motion to adopt the plan inserting more recent numbers as of two thousand and ten 199 00:15:14,56 --> 00:15:15,83 census if available 200 00:15:16,49 --> 00:15:23,47 a second on favor say aye. All opposed ocean Kerry and 201 00:15:23,48 --> 00:15:25,18 all swans that's up to Nelson just 202 00:15:25,19 --> 00:15:30,65 a copy of anything that change OK sounds good thank you. 203 00:15:32,98 --> 00:15:38,65 Remove on to Item Number ten. Reports of birds and committees. 204 00:15:40,66 --> 00:15:47,57 I think we since we last met. Days met So we kicked that often 205 00:15:47,64 --> 00:15:52,78 and started preparing for twenty alive and and trying to figure out who's 206 00:15:52,79 --> 00:15:59,65 interested and helping with that. We made now we 207 00:15:59,66 --> 00:16:05,57 need maybe we did. Are going to wreck each P.C. 208 00:16:05,58 --> 00:16:06,73 Was their P.C. 209 00:16:06,74 --> 00:16:10,75 Has met the last meeting we had shipped out there and we kind of went through some 210 00:16:10,76 --> 00:16:16,13 proposed ordinance changes zoning and they had some really great suggestions and 211 00:16:16,14 --> 00:16:22,36 some things I think are starting to move was good. Streetscape any other 212 00:16:22,37 --> 00:16:28,92 updates. Yeah but we've had some and we mean next week 213 00:16:29,13 --> 00:16:29,92 we've had 214 00:16:29,93 --> 00:16:36,58 a lot of lighting meetings that we in what we. I don't know we completely finalized 215 00:16:36,59 --> 00:16:38,47 but we've come to I think 216 00:16:38,48 --> 00:16:45,39 a consensus. Monument sign on the entrance to. The 217 00:16:45,40 --> 00:16:50,69 development and. Leave the vegan road. 218 00:16:52,74 --> 00:16:53,65 There's some issues with 219 00:16:53,66 --> 00:16:57,99 a left hand turn lane that was going to be future left and Terry Lane That will now 220 00:16:58,00 --> 00:17:04,77 be current while still remaining future. That I think will work over really well 221 00:17:05,26 --> 00:17:10,15 and we actually are in the process of pricing out and getting an idea of Elliott 222 00:17:10,16 --> 00:17:16,62 the street lights versus H I D. We're looking at. 223 00:17:18,50 --> 00:17:24,57 Shepherds kind of lamp overlooking the street with 224 00:17:25,17 --> 00:17:27,46 a carver medallion with 225 00:17:27,47 --> 00:17:33,88 a water tower on the inside all staying within our. Projected budget. 226 00:17:36,56 --> 00:17:41,41 Finalized some trees the landscaping plan I think it looks really really really 227 00:17:41,42 --> 00:17:48,39 good. Sidewalk on one side of the road not to. The Might just the one that 228 00:17:48,40 --> 00:17:50,77 we looked at it essentially is 229 00:17:51,11 --> 00:17:57,31 a rock face on the side and then going down the kind of goes with the. Prairie to 230 00:17:57,32 --> 00:18:03,81 water as the rock on the side incorporates some of the old barns the ball barn rock 231 00:18:03,81 --> 00:18:09,75 . We're kind in the process or now if we want one the granite rocks or. The 232 00:18:09,76 --> 00:18:13,98 arguments actually I think Glenn and I am same page in that for the year or so but 233 00:18:13,99 --> 00:18:20,71 this sign Carver will be backlit with kind of. Patina metal behind it as 234 00:18:21,65 --> 00:18:26,57 depiction of the prairie and then the carver will be again a kind of 235 00:18:26,58 --> 00:18:32,17 a patina blue with backlit and it'll be really really impressive an idea is to have 236 00:18:32,18 --> 00:18:36,06 something that we can have recreated for other developments that come in 237 00:18:36,07 --> 00:18:39,06 a car or so that we stay consistent and we have 238 00:18:39,07 --> 00:18:45,76 a uniform look I think it's extremely classy it's very simple and it's not it's not 239 00:18:45,80 --> 00:18:51,62 overdone yet it's well stated. Our engineer in architects have done 240 00:18:51,63 --> 00:18:58,20 a very nice job options that they can. Thank you well summarized Thank you. 241 00:18:59,24 --> 00:19:04,62 Any other committee updates commission updates. Anything new in the Planning 242 00:19:04,63 --> 00:19:10,76 Commission elsewhere. Or it's not seven o'clock should we recess for eleven minutes 243 00:19:10,77 --> 00:19:17,30 or what it's for the public hearing the business. Of ours or any other 244 00:19:17,31 --> 00:19:23,85 business. OK. 245 00:19:25,42 --> 00:19:31,24 So I don't know what's the protocol your brother. Wants you recess for until seven 246 00:19:31,25 --> 00:19:34,92 o'clock for this point will recess until seven o'clock for the public hearing. 247 00:19:36,98 --> 00:19:43,37 Because the meeting back to order. On the agenda is the business subsidy 248 00:19:43,38 --> 00:19:46,15 policy and I'll turn over to Jessica. 249 00:19:50,59 --> 00:19:56,60 Thank you and good evening Mr Mayor and members of the Council. And I don't have 250 00:19:56,61 --> 00:19:57,70 a Power Point so. 251 00:20:05,26 --> 00:20:11,52 There are. Two public hearings this evening and they already relate to 252 00:20:12,12 --> 00:20:18,46 the mills. Project the mills fleet for the first public hearing which you just open 253 00:20:18,47 --> 00:20:23,27 relates to the business subsidy policy and first I'm going to describe. 254 00:20:26,20 --> 00:20:27,49 What that is and why we need 255 00:20:27,50 --> 00:20:31,41 a hearing and then I'll review some of the key provisions that's in the proposed 256 00:20:31,42 --> 00:20:37,98 policy. According to Minnesota state law any time 257 00:20:38,22 --> 00:20:42,32 a public entity provides more than one hundred fifty thousand dollars in assistance 258 00:20:42,33 --> 00:20:48,30 to private development for economic development purposes that's called 259 00:20:48,31 --> 00:20:55,09 a business subsidy and prior to providing that assistance the city must have in 260 00:20:55,10 --> 00:20:55,46 place 261 00:20:55,47 --> 00:21:01,31 a business subsidy policy and criteria this is all clearly spelled out in state law 262 00:21:01,79 --> 00:21:05,80 that policy then has to be approved following 263 00:21:05,81 --> 00:21:12,29 a public hearing. We initially intended to not only hold public hearing tonight but 264 00:21:12,30 --> 00:21:18,38 also have the policy available for your approval. We were now postponing that 265 00:21:18,42 --> 00:21:23,61 resolution adopting the policy because it should occur at the same time as the tiff 266 00:21:23,62 --> 00:21:27,06 plan is approved and that's been delayed for 267 00:21:27,07 --> 00:21:33,78 a short period so which I'll get into it's not going to hold up the project. So 268 00:21:34,46 --> 00:21:38,27 the purpose of the hearing tonight is to open it to take public comment on the 269 00:21:38,28 --> 00:21:42,64 proposed policy and to close the hearing without adopting the policy that will come 270 00:21:42,65 --> 00:21:43,28 back in 271 00:21:43,29 --> 00:21:50,87 a future evening. So the purpose of the policy as I mentioned is to. Provide 272 00:21:51,09 --> 00:21:55,35 counsel and staff with guidance about when it's appropriate to provide 273 00:21:55,36 --> 00:22:01,53 a business subsidy and first and foremost it says that the project has to prove 274 00:22:01,54 --> 00:22:07,77 need that it wouldn't proceed without public financial assistance Secondly it has 275 00:22:07,78 --> 00:22:14,46 to achieve important goals set forth by the city and the council and these 276 00:22:14,86 --> 00:22:20,79 goals include such things as enhanced in the tax base retaining or creating jobs 277 00:22:21,77 --> 00:22:28,67 and promoting. Additional development beyond that which is is being assisted 278 00:22:28,68 --> 00:22:32,10 So in this case that would be the lapse property that this would spur development 279 00:22:32,11 --> 00:22:38,91 of that whole commercial area. It can be redevelopment so if you 280 00:22:38,95 --> 00:22:43,21 are assembling persons for redevelopment if you redeveloping obsolete or 281 00:22:43,22 --> 00:22:45,86 substandard buildings that would warrant 282 00:22:46,73 --> 00:22:51,39 a business subsidy and then very encouraging various types of housing so for 283 00:22:51,40 --> 00:22:58,08 example you just approved the housing plan. And so if you wanted to assist 284 00:22:58,09 --> 00:23:04,11 a project that conforms with that plan. That could be approved now having this 285 00:23:04,12 --> 00:23:08,94 business subsidy policy in place does not obligate you to provide a business 286 00:23:08,95 --> 00:23:15,73 a city it just says if you choose to these are the general criteria to follow but 287 00:23:15,77 --> 00:23:21,79 every case every request comes in with an application and is reviewed and is 288 00:23:21,80 --> 00:23:28,74 recommended has its own public hearing. So. I just want to 289 00:23:28,93 --> 00:23:32,14 make sure that that it's clear this isn't setting you up for 290 00:23:32,15 --> 00:23:39,06 a string of assisting. So one question I've got is. With the downtown business 291 00:23:39,07 --> 00:23:41,49 council we talked about potentially offering 292 00:23:41,50 --> 00:23:45,66 a rehabilitation storefront loan type thing 293 00:23:46,05 --> 00:23:50,22 a couple of thousand dollars is that not fall into this at all that's correct 294 00:23:50,23 --> 00:23:54,85 that's us to be entered in excess of one hundred fifty OK. That. 295 00:24:02,09 --> 00:24:05,84 And so in addition to that the things in the past we talked about what your general 296 00:24:05,85 --> 00:24:11,77 goals are there is also guidance on how these individual applications will be 297 00:24:11,78 --> 00:24:14,51 evaluated from a financial perspective and from 298 00:24:14,52 --> 00:24:21,34 a public purpose perspective. And that's the only comments I have but I'm happy to 299 00:24:21,35 --> 00:24:25,40 take questions. Any comments from the audience. 300 00:24:30,94 --> 00:24:33,45 Her It comes from the counsel. 301 00:24:38,53 --> 00:24:38,76 Is there 302 00:24:38,77 --> 00:24:43,43 a motion to approve or to close the public and Mr America we just keep the ball 303 00:24:43,44 --> 00:24:45,44 here you know put it all we just got 304 00:24:45,45 --> 00:24:49,73 a good excuse me just who goes through the Texan plan we're trained to find out 305 00:24:49,74 --> 00:24:54,56 from way whether it needs to be here needs to be continued or closed so are just 306 00:24:54,57 --> 00:24:59,62 a minor detail but we want to make sure we do it right or we'll move on to the next 307 00:24:59,63 --> 00:25:06,30 one which is the district. And and I had a discussion with Mary 308 00:25:06,31 --> 00:25:11,46 a poll on that question and she said we can close the hearing continuing it is an 309 00:25:11,47 --> 00:25:18,36 option. If. The city council wants to for example have there 310 00:25:18,37 --> 00:25:24,53 been public comment that they wanted to pursue further they could continue it. But 311 00:25:24,83 --> 00:25:31,57 proceed with the the next hearing OK. So the next hearing that was an 312 00:25:32,36 --> 00:25:38,55 agenda for this evening relates to approving the tiff plan and related documents 313 00:25:39,57 --> 00:25:41,98 and. This gets 314 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:48,46 a little bit more complicated so bear with me. The reason that there is to hear 315 00:25:48,87 --> 00:25:55,64 is because. Cities are not allowed to take money from their general fund and 316 00:25:55,65 --> 00:25:58,16 just make a business subsidy with it and just 317 00:25:58,17 --> 00:26:03,85 a system element that isn't an authorized the use of tax dollars 318 00:26:04,39 --> 00:26:08,29 so there are just a couple of. Maybe 319 00:26:08,30 --> 00:26:14,54 a handful or less of ways that the state legislature has authorized cities to 320 00:26:14,55 --> 00:26:19,86 promote economic development in their communities and one of these financing tools 321 00:26:19,97 --> 00:26:26,78 is tax increment financing which we refer to as. Now the state doesn't like T.F. 322 00:26:27,65 --> 00:26:33,61 So they have created many obstacles to and hoops to jump through and procedures to 323 00:26:33,62 --> 00:26:40,56 follow and limitations on the use of tariff and so. We are following all of those 324 00:26:40,98 --> 00:26:44,93 and we have not only Larry Harris who were looking at this but the city's ban 325 00:26:44,94 --> 00:26:49,27 council into for turning variable is also reviewing this and we of course do 326 00:26:49,28 --> 00:26:54,42 a lot of so you're in good stead but that's why we end up with this whole kind of 327 00:26:54,43 --> 00:27:01,33 confusing mechanism. So not only do we have the legal framework but the other 328 00:27:01,34 --> 00:27:03,57 reason we do to fix that it actually provides 329 00:27:03,58 --> 00:27:09,63 a revenue source that doesn't compete with your tax dollars the premise behind 330 00:27:10,43 --> 00:27:14,32 is that you're assisting projects that otherwise would not have been completed 331 00:27:14,69 --> 00:27:20,31 without. So what happens is that right now the mills property. 332 00:27:21,98 --> 00:27:27,22 I don't remember the exact value saw let's say three million for discussion 333 00:27:27,42 --> 00:27:33,72 purposes is the assessed market value on that land. If we put that land and we're 334 00:27:33,73 --> 00:27:37,88 just talking about the land south of the back intro that the store will occupy not 335 00:27:37,89 --> 00:27:42,31 the parcel they own north of here so if you put the southern portion into 336 00:27:42,32 --> 00:27:49,25 a tiff district what happens is that. The taxes that are related to the 337 00:27:49,26 --> 00:27:53,58 land value which we've for sake of argument said is three million dollars will 338 00:27:53,59 --> 00:27:58,48 continue to go to the city the school district the county and all the other taxing 339 00:27:58,48 --> 00:28:05,43 jurisdictions. The taxes that relate to the increase in market value from the 340 00:28:05,44 --> 00:28:11,70 three million to twenty million again just for easy math so seventeen million 341 00:28:11,71 --> 00:28:17,90 dollars of value the taxes related to that would be captured. By the county that's 342 00:28:17,91 --> 00:28:24,67 called tax increment. That is sent to the city and the city uses it to 343 00:28:24,68 --> 00:28:31,17 help assist with some of the unusually high project cost for that project now 344 00:28:31,61 --> 00:28:34,84 Mills is going to pay the same amount in taxes as whether it's in 345 00:28:34,85 --> 00:28:40,36 a tip district or whether it isn't so there is no different from their perspective 346 00:28:40,37 --> 00:28:43,40 in terms of what they're paying this is not 347 00:28:43,44 --> 00:28:48,28 a forgiveness and tax. In addition only a portion of 348 00:28:48,29 --> 00:28:52,56 a new taxes are going to be captured there's the all the the portion that goes to 349 00:28:52,57 --> 00:28:59,54 the state. You know for the it's called the school levy. That is not captured 350 00:28:59,79 --> 00:29:04,88 market value referendum is not captured so that's like the school referendum taxes 351 00:29:05,69 --> 00:29:12,46 so we've estimated the amount of increment that will be captured. And 352 00:29:12,47 --> 00:29:17,67 currently has proposed that males would receive ninety percent of that increment So 353 00:29:17,68 --> 00:29:24,59 this brings me or you with me OK this brings me to my next point which is how do 354 00:29:24,60 --> 00:29:28,28 you convert OK so we're going to capture the increment for nine years we're going 355 00:29:28,29 --> 00:29:34,66 to get one ninth of it each year. How do we take that money over 356 00:29:34,67 --> 00:29:40,90 time and get it into the project now when the road has to be built and the 357 00:29:41,71 --> 00:29:47,81 sewer has to be extended cetera et cetera the way we do that with the least risk to 358 00:29:47,82 --> 00:29:50,31 the city as we undertake what's called 359 00:29:50,32 --> 00:29:54,96 a pays you go know so Mills is going to pay for all of these project costs 360 00:29:54,97 --> 00:29:57,88 a print you know issue 361 00:29:58,84 --> 00:30:04,77 a note to mills that promises to repay for those project costs 362 00:30:05,88 --> 00:30:12,55 out of tax income and if tax increment goes down. They're 363 00:30:12,56 --> 00:30:19,04 out you aren't out so for example if you promise to pay. One hundred thousand 364 00:30:19,05 --> 00:30:19,38 dollars 365 00:30:19,39 --> 00:30:24,08 a year again just easy math numbers and the increment is only eighty thousand 366 00:30:25,05 --> 00:30:29,25 you'll pay the eighty thousand and you won't be on the hook for the rest will pick 367 00:30:29,26 --> 00:30:34,84 up more of their project costs in that scenario if the increment turns out to be 368 00:30:34,85 --> 00:30:39,76 higher than was expected we've still kept the total amount that they would get 369 00:30:39,77 --> 00:30:44,48 reimbursed for and they would just get paid back faster we prepaid than. 370 00:30:46,67 --> 00:30:53,48 With me there OK. So that's how the tax increment is planned to be 371 00:30:53,49 --> 00:30:59,82 used. The public hearing this evening again is required by law. 372 00:31:00,95 --> 00:31:05,26 Prior to approval of the of the tiff plan and the redevelopment plan so there's 373 00:31:05,27 --> 00:31:09,21 actually three things that are being considered tonight in the public hearing one 374 00:31:09,22 --> 00:31:14,48 is the modification to the redevelopment plan the redevelopment plan is the legal 375 00:31:14,49 --> 00:31:19,67 framework that underlies the tiff district that gives you the authority to create 376 00:31:19,68 --> 00:31:24,11 a tiff district the city already has one in place and it's just 377 00:31:24,12 --> 00:31:28,26 a matter of updating it because I think it was done in one thousand nine hundred 378 00:31:28,27 --> 00:31:34,72 five so there are some. Updating of that and your project areas your whole city 379 00:31:34,76 --> 00:31:40,95 you've annexed land we need to include that it's cetera et cetera. The second 380 00:31:40,96 --> 00:31:47,65 component of the public hearing is to consider the tiff plan itself which is 381 00:31:48,12 --> 00:31:52,90 the document that basically sets up the district within it there's 382 00:31:52,92 --> 00:31:57,14 a budget for the maximum amount of to if that you can collect and how are you going 383 00:31:57,15 --> 00:32:03,17 to spend that and then all the other statutory requirements are in there. And the 384 00:32:03,18 --> 00:32:09,08 third component of the public hearing is is that it's the hearing to award the 385 00:32:09,09 --> 00:32:12,79 business subsidies so if you remember my description of the business subsidy 386 00:32:13,06 --> 00:32:16,65 hearing I said each time Napa cation comes in that has to have 387 00:32:16,66 --> 00:32:23,21 a hearing this tiff plan hearing according to Mary Apple will serve also that 388 00:32:23,22 --> 00:32:28,42 purpose of the business subsidy. So again. I'm almost done. 389 00:32:30,73 --> 00:32:33,16 We had expected to have 390 00:32:33,17 --> 00:32:39,50 a resolution for you this evening that would actually approve the tip plan that has 391 00:32:39,51 --> 00:32:41,37 been delayed because there's 392 00:32:41,38 --> 00:32:46,30 a provision in the tip flaw that allows the county road to. 393 00:32:47,78 --> 00:32:54,03 Request I think the law says require the that increment be used to pay for county 394 00:32:54,04 --> 00:33:00,45 road costs and in the eleventh hour the county actually did make that request and 395 00:33:00,46 --> 00:33:06,83 so that letters in your in your memo. Is not going to make 396 00:33:06,84 --> 00:33:12,39 a big difference to what we've been tended to do it and I don't thing as I know 397 00:33:12,40 --> 00:33:15,60 it's not going to stall the project but there's some procedural stuff we need to do 398 00:33:15,61 --> 00:33:22,10 baby sensually said. Like the anchorman pay off 399 00:33:22,11 --> 00:33:28,24 males. Keep your administrate of and if there's anything left we want. 400 00:33:29,25 --> 00:33:29,55 And there's 401 00:33:29,56 --> 00:33:33,51 a provision in the law that now requires us to enter into negotiate agreement with 402 00:33:33,52 --> 00:33:38,40 the county about how this is going to work so Mariel's drafting that agreement it 403 00:33:38,41 --> 00:33:42,02 will go to the county for approval when that's all done we come back with the 404 00:33:42,03 --> 00:33:48,60 resolution preventative plan so again the. Hearing tonight is to fulfill our 405 00:33:48,61 --> 00:33:52,47 hearing requirement there's no action requested following the hearing will be 406 00:33:52,48 --> 00:33:53,81 coming back with 407 00:33:53,82 --> 00:33:59,95 a resolution for the plan and now I'm really done. Any questions for just 408 00:34:00,71 --> 00:34:05,33 yes. I know that Ehlers represents other communities in Carver County is that 409 00:34:05,34 --> 00:34:10,92 correct. Or I think you do don't you you don't have to specify Yes we do and we 410 00:34:10,93 --> 00:34:15,27 also represent the county. And you also represent the county is this common 411 00:34:15,28 --> 00:34:21,33 practice for the county to do this when the Fifth District is went to financing is 412 00:34:21,34 --> 00:34:26,59 being used it's very uncommon have they ever done it before in Carver County Not 413 00:34:26,60 --> 00:34:33,29 that I'm aware of interesting and oh. Well these improvements were not in their 414 00:34:33,30 --> 00:34:40,17 five year plan and so I think that they need to for their own purposes identify 415 00:34:40,18 --> 00:34:46,36 potential funding sources to pay for it I also think that in the Economic Times 416 00:34:46,37 --> 00:34:52,02 story and I have seen more and more competition for resources between layers of 417 00:34:52,03 --> 00:34:57,41 government than I have typically seen so everybody's trying to get everybody else 418 00:34:57,42 --> 00:35:00,40 to pay. For the project. 419 00:35:04,52 --> 00:35:05,19 And there may be 420 00:35:05,20 --> 00:35:12,53 a political aspect to it too I don't know. Interesting other 421 00:35:12,57 --> 00:35:17,40 questions for Jessica or questions from the audience when you say eleventh hour one 422 00:35:17,41 --> 00:35:23,35 of this comment the request or the requirement from the county in March. And they 423 00:35:23,36 --> 00:35:28,42 did have until tonight to make the request in forty five days with the county made 424 00:35:28,43 --> 00:35:29,89 us aware that they're going to be sent 425 00:35:29,90 --> 00:35:33,90 a letter you know close to the deadline but I wouldn't I think it's just 426 00:35:33,91 --> 00:35:38,56 a figure of speech just because using the scented in and their regular protocol 427 00:35:38,57 --> 00:35:45,43 more time that they had to give us the letter. And Dave Callista and I met with 428 00:35:46,09 --> 00:35:48,62 the county's finance director and gave him C. 429 00:35:48,69 --> 00:35:52,87 And then their editors representative of. Me 430 00:35:52,89 --> 00:35:58,19 a week ago Friday to go over kind of what their plan was and we showed them our tax 431 00:35:58,21 --> 00:36:03,69 increment runs and they showed us the intended to try to capture that increment and 432 00:36:03,69 --> 00:36:09,41 we kind of worked through that process. So we were aware that they were more than 433 00:36:09,42 --> 00:36:13,43 likely going to make this request is the counties now doing this countywide are 434 00:36:13,43 --> 00:36:17,13 they doing this in the with the new development that is in the same timeframe and 435 00:36:17,14 --> 00:36:21,25 in Chasse going over on one what is it or not only what I don't think they're using 436 00:36:21,25 --> 00:36:24,85 tax increment there and frankly I don't think the county was aware this provision 437 00:36:24,86 --> 00:36:29,86 existed and so this is their first time requesting that I don't know that for 438 00:36:29,86 --> 00:36:36,84 a fact but I. Were some allusion and thanks 439 00:36:36,85 --> 00:36:42,04 for that information and I would just concur what happened at the eleventh hour was 440 00:36:42,23 --> 00:36:46,78 we saw this little sentence in the law about needing an agreement with the county 441 00:36:47,32 --> 00:36:53,09 so that was sort of the eleventh hour thing. So you're present the county and you 442 00:36:53,10 --> 00:36:59,89 represent the city in the US Well I don't know and we have we we don't talk to 443 00:36:59,90 --> 00:37:04,46 each other in the press I was recommended County but I wasn't moving to like 444 00:37:04,47 --> 00:37:08,13 a loser I think that I just I just wanted to point out fact this is the first time 445 00:37:08,14 --> 00:37:14,24 the county's done this that we're aware of and I just. Find it interesting yeah 446 00:37:14,25 --> 00:37:20,69 I've seen counties in greater Minnesota do it more often in the metro area but just 447 00:37:20,70 --> 00:37:23,55 to clarify just for this is kind of it's 448 00:37:23,55 --> 00:37:27,26 a provision that you'd have to dig deep into Texan if you meant financing law to 449 00:37:27,27 --> 00:37:29,23 find it's I mean it's not something that 450 00:37:29,42 --> 00:37:33,24 a lot of people use probably because it's not readily available these That's how it 451 00:37:33,25 --> 00:37:37,60 was explained to me by some attorneys Well it is 452 00:37:37,64 --> 00:37:44,44 a rather obscure provision nonetheless we do notice the county how much is that. 453 00:37:46,28 --> 00:37:52,43 Kind of cost. Wards the court counties portion of the increment Well the counties 454 00:37:52,44 --> 00:37:56,83 portion of the road cost is eight hundred fifty four thousand we don't actually 455 00:37:56,84 --> 00:38:03,20 expect there to be any incremental bailable to help pay that because as I said that 456 00:38:03,39 --> 00:38:08,35 the developer gets ninety percent the city gets ten percent and based on our 457 00:38:08,36 --> 00:38:13,82 estimates that doesn't leave anything left the county wanted to be clear that they 458 00:38:13,83 --> 00:38:17,44 don't want to be they want to be second in line they want to make sure mills in the 459 00:38:17,45 --> 00:38:22,04 interest goes along with the increment payments is paid to Mills at but they want 460 00:38:22,05 --> 00:38:26,31 to be second why should there be excess increment they want to have that available 461 00:38:26,32 --> 00:38:30,71 to them to pay for their right it doesn't sound like would just could just said. 462 00:38:31,57 --> 00:38:38,36 Just going to say that so. Mills is in line for their ninety percent yes whatever's 463 00:38:38,37 --> 00:38:42,83 left over after the ninety percent The county wants Well then the city gets its 464 00:38:43,53 --> 00:38:47,13 administrative costs paid for so the incremental go for it will get out of that 465 00:38:47,14 --> 00:38:51,20 hundred percent of the pie mills will get ninety percent and we'll get our ten 466 00:38:51,21 --> 00:38:55,80 percent administrative costs assume as Mills is paid off and say they get paid off 467 00:38:55,81 --> 00:39:00,59 in your eat with their interest if there is that one extra year instead of this 468 00:39:00,60 --> 00:39:05,17 sort of in the district bill or the county wants to have that kept open and collect 469 00:39:05,18 --> 00:39:09,09 that increment for all that one additional year and apply it to so if we don't all 470 00:39:09,10 --> 00:39:13,23 mills that ninety percent the county gets that ninety percent let me let me give an 471 00:39:13,24 --> 00:39:19,38 example wrong let's we will soon in our tax increment projections that there isn't 472 00:39:19,39 --> 00:39:26,07 any increase in market value. So let's say again I have this. Twenty 473 00:39:26,08 --> 00:39:32,42 million dollar value for the project Let's say we somehow get back into the go go 474 00:39:32,82 --> 00:39:39,65 development here and that project is increasing in market value by ten percent 475 00:39:39,66 --> 00:39:46,05 a year. We haven't projected that in so the max We haven't pledged that 476 00:39:46,06 --> 00:39:47,85 Tamils So if if there's 477 00:39:47,86 --> 00:39:51,82 a lot more increment because the market values are going up mills will get paid off 478 00:39:51,86 --> 00:39:55,58 earlier and then there may be some left for the county is sort of 479 00:39:55,59 --> 00:40:01,55 a waterfall first mills will get paid for their project costs in the city OK I did 480 00:40:01,56 --> 00:40:06,89 that on it but here's the deal for me is that we're not figuring any anchor we're 481 00:40:06,90 --> 00:40:11,23 not for going to any increase in market value in the increment so we pay mills off 482 00:40:11,56 --> 00:40:16,88 if I if what happens if there if what I think happens up there if I think what's 483 00:40:16,89 --> 00:40:23,85 going to happen up there happens it's clear. Him else isn't going to be alone for 484 00:40:23,85 --> 00:40:28,28 a long while it's none of that is in the tax increment is external kind of once 485 00:40:28,30 --> 00:40:34,46 Mills isn't alone for long Mills is project the value goes. Incrementally. 486 00:40:35,87 --> 00:40:40,26 So the monies that were collecting now we're incrementally paying them off quicker 487 00:40:40,34 --> 00:40:43,54 because we kept out at X. Now it's X. 488 00:40:43,58 --> 00:40:49,60 Times one point six we paid them off and let's just say that goes 489 00:40:49,81 --> 00:40:54,50 gangbusters and their value goes up and we pay them off in six years you're telling 490 00:40:54,51 --> 00:40:59,72 me that under this agreement for the next five years we pay the county that ninety 491 00:40:59,73 --> 00:41:05,71 percent without without this agreement that after six years and they're paid off 492 00:41:05,82 --> 00:41:10,46 we'd have to decertify the district with the county is there yet and what county is 493 00:41:10,47 --> 00:41:14,61 asking is that we keep the district open and using I think that meant to the 494 00:41:14,62 --> 00:41:19,49 question I ask you make is you're correct in your so if bill is paid off after six 495 00:41:19,50 --> 00:41:23,87 years Connie would be collecting ninety percent so they collect the city's portion 496 00:41:23,88 --> 00:41:29,30 and the schools portion until their debt was paid off which inevitably we're going 497 00:41:29,31 --> 00:41:34,57 to pay for Probably if it all goes well probably going to pay for over half of that 498 00:41:34,58 --> 00:41:38,79 road so that were true that's why we're we're delaying action on this because we 499 00:41:38,80 --> 00:41:43,40 want we have to have an agreement with the county we're trained negotiate some 500 00:41:43,89 --> 00:41:46,27 better and this is this is an agreement this is 501 00:41:46,28 --> 00:41:48,100 a stipulation that they've never used before and all of 502 00:41:49,01 --> 00:41:53,23 a sudden they're using on this record and this doesn't count with the agreement 503 00:41:53,24 --> 00:41:57,14 that we came up with the seventy five twenty five or whatever the rest of it is on 504 00:41:57,15 --> 00:42:04,11 payment section which just turns into forty sixty S were trained sort our 505 00:42:04,12 --> 00:42:10,87 way through that when we meet with them on this agreement. While 506 00:42:11,33 --> 00:42:15,67 we're small loosening. I mean why isn't our county representative here. 507 00:42:18,54 --> 00:42:24,24 I'm asking Randy were area. OK. All right. 508 00:42:25,39 --> 00:42:30,17 There Any other comments from the public or the council Thank you Jessica for that 509 00:42:30,28 --> 00:42:33,93 very good explanation thank you very much and here when are you meeting with him 510 00:42:33,94 --> 00:42:36,78 again the county. Mary 511 00:42:36,79 --> 00:42:40,87 a poster asking an agreement so soon as we get that draft will forward it to the 512 00:42:40,88 --> 00:42:45,88 county and it will play I mean there's nothing scheduled today. But and that 513 00:42:45,89 --> 00:42:50,03 agreement will have the proposed how we're going to handle the counties repayment 514 00:42:50,27 --> 00:42:51,07 correct as 515 00:42:51,08 --> 00:42:55,41 a council it for me I would like to see it before it goes to the county since 516 00:42:55,42 --> 00:42:59,05 they're not covering this expense in full I don't know that we should be giving 517 00:42:59,06 --> 00:43:04,01 them one hundred percent of the ninety percent at all if you see what I'm saying 518 00:43:04,97 --> 00:43:11,47 but see there's statutorily allowed to get all of it certainly So we're just 519 00:43:11,83 --> 00:43:17,74 basically politically asking them to work with us on this and make them I want to 520 00:43:17,75 --> 00:43:24,25 meet with you I'd just like to see it before we send it to the condo make sure the 521 00:43:24,26 --> 00:43:27,90 consul gets the draft. Thank you. 522 00:43:31,73 --> 00:43:36,65 Anything else and we close them and make 523 00:43:36,66 --> 00:43:40,90 a motion we close the public hearing second. That for both of them. 524 00:43:43,48 --> 00:43:49,42 Very say I. Oppose the need anyone. Cared. 525 00:43:50,52 --> 00:43:57,01 Any other business tonight. They're saying that as their motion to adjourn 526 00:43:57,84 --> 00:44:03,15 their second circuit sorry on favor say aye oppose Thank you.